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How can I stop being attracted to deeply damaged men?译文简介
童年的创伤该如何治愈
正文翻译

How can I stop being attracted to deeply damaged men?
我怎么样才能避免自己被伤害过的男人所吸引?
My father was an abusive alcoholic and everyone I have been involved with in recent years has had addiction issues. How can I escape this negative pattern?
我的父亲是一个有虐待倾向的酗酒者,近几年来和我交往的每个人几乎都有成瘾问题。我怎么样才能够摆脱这种消极的问题呢?
我的父亲是一个有虐待倾向的酗酒者,近几年来和我交往的每个人几乎都有成瘾问题。我怎么样才能够摆脱这种消极的问题呢?
Looking back over the past 10 years, I have noticed that everyone I have been involved with has had problems with addiction and been emotionally unavailable. My father was an alcoholic and, towards the end of his life, a deeply disturbed, psychotic man. I have often wondered why the men I am attracted to mirror the way my dad was towards me. I remember the pain his abusive and neglectful behaviour caused. I want to move away from these negative patterns that I keep repeating in adult life.
回顾过去的10年,我发现和我在一起的每个人都有成瘾的问题,而且在情感上都很难相处。我的父亲是一个酒鬼,在他生命的最后时刻,他变得精神错乱,成为了一位心理疾病患者。我常常想,为什么那些吸引我的男人总是和我父亲对我方式那么的相似。我很难遗忘他的辱骂给我造成的痛苦。我想摆脱这些消极的状况,这种在我成年之后一直困扰我的状况。
回顾过去的10年,我发现和我在一起的每个人都有成瘾的问题,而且在情感上都很难相处。我的父亲是一个酒鬼,在他生命的最后时刻,他变得精神错乱,成为了一位心理疾病患者。我常常想,为什么那些吸引我的男人总是和我父亲对我方式那么的相似。我很难遗忘他的辱骂给我造成的痛苦。我想摆脱这些消极的状况,这种在我成年之后一直困扰我的状况。
Now when I feel attracted to someone, I think they must be damaged in some way. How can I navigate the complicated path of finding a wholesome, life-affirming relationship if my internal radar “beeps” for the wrong one every time?
现在,当我被某个人所吸引的时候,我想他们一定在某些方面受到过伤害。如果我内心的雷达每次“嘟嘟”发现地都是一些错误的人,那么我怎么才能在寻找一段健康、积极人生的关系的复杂道路上顺利前行呢?
现在,当我被某个人所吸引的时候,我想他们一定在某些方面受到过伤害。如果我内心的雷达每次“嘟嘟”发现地都是一些错误的人,那么我怎么才能在寻找一段健康、积极人生的关系的复杂道路上顺利前行呢?
评论翻译
anonymouse2591
There is a 12 step group called ‘Adult Children of Alcoholics and dysfunctional families (ACA).’ They hold meetings focussed on understanding and healing from the trauma of growing up in an alcoholic and abusive home. There are some readings and then time for sharing about your experiences. All the meetings are online at the moment so it’s a good time to try one out as being online can be less daunting than face to face. It’s a really good place for recovery and healing.
有一个名为“酗酒和不正常家庭的成年子女(ACA)”的12步小组。他们开会讨论:如何理解和治愈在酗酒和虐待家庭中成长的创伤,你可以阅读一些东西或者花些时间分享你的经历。目前所有的会议都在网上进行,所以这是一个值得一试的好时机,因为在线开会比面对面开会更加轻松。这是一个恢复和治愈的好时机。
There is a 12 step group called ‘Adult Children of Alcoholics and dysfunctional families (ACA).’ They hold meetings focussed on understanding and healing from the trauma of growing up in an alcoholic and abusive home. There are some readings and then time for sharing about your experiences. All the meetings are online at the moment so it’s a good time to try one out as being online can be less daunting than face to face. It’s a really good place for recovery and healing.
有一个名为“酗酒和不正常家庭的成年子女(ACA)”的12步小组。他们开会讨论:如何理解和治愈在酗酒和虐待家庭中成长的创伤,你可以阅读一些东西或者花些时间分享你的经历。目前所有的会议都在网上进行,所以这是一个值得一试的好时机,因为在线开会比面对面开会更加轻松。这是一个恢复和治愈的好时机。

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ID270720
I had a realisation the last time I was in counselling concerning the power of inter-generational (or trans-generational) trauma. I think something like this is relevant here. In a sense this woman's father is speaking through her, acting through her, trying to correct and save himself. Though I'm sure a science-educated type can explain the mechanisms of this I can't. The clearest I can be is to tell of how when I belatedly met my dad it turned out we'd both played piano since we were 13. I had told myself reasons for this that were ultimately short-sighted. The wish to learn piano turned on in me as if a light on a timer. We're not commonly taught to see this kind of thing as encoded in genes but I've seen it many times now.
我上一次接受咨询时,就意识到代际创伤(或跨代创伤)的力量。我觉得这是相关的,从某种意义上来讲,这个女人的父亲是通过她的说话以及她的行为,试图纠正和拯救自己。虽然我相信受过科学教育的人能够解释这一机制,但我还解释不了。我能说得最清楚的就是,当我终于遇到我父亲的时候,我发现我们都是从13岁起就开始弹钢琴了,我曾经不断告诉自己这样做的原因都是目光短浅的。学钢琴的愿望在我心中燃起,就像计时器上的一盏灯,我们通常被教导不要把这种东西看作是基因编码的原因,但是我已经见识过很多次了。
ID270720
I had a realisation the last time I was in counselling concerning the power of inter-generational (or trans-generational) trauma. I think something like this is relevant here. In a sense this woman's father is speaking through her, acting through her, trying to correct and save himself. Though I'm sure a science-educated type can explain the mechanisms of this I can't. The clearest I can be is to tell of how when I belatedly met my dad it turned out we'd both played piano since we were 13. I had told myself reasons for this that were ultimately short-sighted. The wish to learn piano turned on in me as if a light on a timer. We're not commonly taught to see this kind of thing as encoded in genes but I've seen it many times now.
我上一次接受咨询时,就意识到代际创伤(或跨代创伤)的力量。我觉得这是相关的,从某种意义上来讲,这个女人的父亲是通过她的说话以及她的行为,试图纠正和拯救自己。虽然我相信受过科学教育的人能够解释这一机制,但我还解释不了。我能说得最清楚的就是,当我终于遇到我父亲的时候,我发现我们都是从13岁起就开始弹钢琴了,我曾经不断告诉自己这样做的原因都是目光短浅的。学钢琴的愿望在我心中燃起,就像计时器上的一盏灯,我们通常被教导不要把这种东西看作是基因编码的原因,但是我已经见识过很多次了。
My own parents were off the rails in their mid teens when I was conceived. Their eyes have been seeing themselves in people I've known, whether would-be friends and women I've either been with or had hoped to win over. Because I'd built a story of virtue around this, just as I'd built a story around the musical impulse before learning of its true origins, I'd been too proud to step away from my habits and inclinations and accept that they were not good for me.
我的父母怀我的时候他们还年轻,当时他们就已经出轨了,他们会从我认识的人身上看到自己的影子,无论是想要成为朋友的人,还是和我交往过或希望和我交往的女人。因为我围绕着它建立了一个关于美德的故事,就像我在了解音乐的真正起源之前,就构想出了一个关于音乐冲动的故事一样,我感到非常骄傲,我不愿放弃自己的习惯和倾向,但是接受它们又对我没有好处。
我的父母怀我的时候他们还年轻,当时他们就已经出轨了,他们会从我认识的人身上看到自己的影子,无论是想要成为朋友的人,还是和我交往过或希望和我交往的女人。因为我围绕着它建立了一个关于美德的故事,就像我在了解音乐的真正起源之前,就构想出了一个关于音乐冲动的故事一样,我感到非常骄傲,我不愿放弃自己的习惯和倾向,但是接受它们又对我没有好处。
There's grief at first, with the feeling almost of having been controlled, but reading about inter-generational trauma should fuel a breaking away from the self-denial of these behaviours that are not ours.
一开始我会感到悲伤,感觉自己几乎被控制住了,但了解到代际间的创伤以后,应该会促使我们摆脱对这些不属于我们的行为的自我否定。
一开始我会感到悲伤,感觉自己几乎被控制住了,但了解到代际间的创伤以后,应该会促使我们摆脱对这些不属于我们的行为的自我否定。



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CarrieHobbe
There’s been some wonderful suppprt here, so I will stick to practical advice that I wish I had access to when I was recovering (from a very similar childhood/parental situation)
这里有一些很棒的建议,所以我建议使用一些实用的建议,这些建议是我希望在我(从非常相似的童年/父母的情况中)恢复时能够得到的。
CarrieHobbe
There’s been some wonderful suppprt here, so I will stick to practical advice that I wish I had access to when I was recovering (from a very similar childhood/parental situation)
这里有一些很棒的建议,所以我建议使用一些实用的建议,这些建议是我希望在我(从非常相似的童年/父母的情况中)恢复时能够得到的。
1. You need a good, empathetic, patient and kind therapist. Please do Make sure they are trauma informed. (I’m so sorry, but you do have childhood trauma around the lack of safety, abandonment and abuse you were subjected to. It can be hard to face this because as children our minds protect us by burying this deep down and not allowing us to face it until we are ready).
1. 你需要一个优秀的、有同理心的、有耐心的、善良的理疗师。请务必告知他们所有的创伤。(我很抱歉,但你的童年确实因为缺乏安全感,被遗弃和虐待而受到创伤,这可能很难面对,因为作为孩子,我们的大脑会把它深深埋在心底,不允许我们面对它,直到我们准备好。)
1. 你需要一个优秀的、有同理心的、有耐心的、善良的理疗师。请务必告知他们所有的创伤。(我很抱歉,但你的童年确实因为缺乏安全感,被遗弃和虐待而受到创伤,这可能很难面对,因为作为孩子,我们的大脑会把它深深埋在心底,不允许我们面对它,直到我们准备好。)
2. Read the book “Healing the Child Within” by Charles L whitfield. He survived a difficult childhood in a family with and alcoholic parent, and grew up to be a psychologist.
2. 读一读查尔斯·L·惠特菲尔德的《治愈内心的孩子》,他在一个父母都是酒鬼的家庭里度过了艰难的童年,长大后成为了一名心理学家。
2. 读一读查尔斯·L·惠特菲尔德的《治愈内心的孩子》,他在一个父母都是酒鬼的家庭里度过了艰难的童年,长大后成为了一名心理学家。
3. Try some kind of somatic/bodywork therapies. But only after you have felt comfortable in therapy for a while. I would suggest something easy like EFT down the road.
3.尝试一些躯体/身体疗法,但这要在你在治疗过程中感受到舒服之后进行,我建议你做一些简单的事情,比如在路上做一些敲击疗法
3.尝试一些躯体/身体疗法,但这要在你在治疗过程中感受到舒服之后进行,我建议你做一些简单的事情,比如在路上做一些敲击疗法

5. You will also see more emotionally healthy people slowly come into your life as you move down the healing path. This will, at some point, reflect in you finding you are no longer attracted to people who are quite as damaged as in your post here. I can tell you from personal experience - this will feel wonderfully liberating.
5. 当你沿着治愈之路前行时,大家旺娱乐场棋牌开户:你也会看到更多情绪健康的人慢慢走进你的生活。在某种程度上,这将反映在你发现你不再被那些像你在这里发帖的人所吸引,我可以从个人的经验告诉你——这会让你的内心感到奇妙的解放
5. 当你沿着治愈之路前行时,大家旺娱乐场棋牌开户:你也会看到更多情绪健康的人慢慢走进你的生活。在某种程度上,这将反映在你发现你不再被那些像你在这里发帖的人所吸引,我可以从个人的经验告诉你——这会让你的内心感到奇妙的解放
6. Read Karla Mc Laren’s “The Language of Emotions”. She is a survivor of childhood abuse and has wonderful short videos on how to decipher what your emotions are trying to tell you. I would suggest taking your time, but some of the most powerful healing I’ve experienced was when I let myself fully grieve for the childhood I should have had and never got - I had NO idea how much grief we suppress when we have neglectful/abusive parents.
6. 读读卡拉的《情感的语言》,她也是童年受虐的幸存者,她做了很多精彩的短视频,告诉你如何解读,你的情绪在试图告诉你什么。我建议你慢慢来,但是我经历过的一些最有效的治愈是,当我让自己完全为我本该拥有却未曾拥有的童年感到悲伤的时候——我不知道当我们的父母忽略或者虐待我们的时候,我们压抑了多少的悲伤。
6. 读读卡拉的《情感的语言》,她也是童年受虐的幸存者,她做了很多精彩的短视频,告诉你如何解读,你的情绪在试图告诉你什么。我建议你慢慢来,但是我经历过的一些最有效的治愈是,当我让自己完全为我本该拥有却未曾拥有的童年感到悲伤的时候——我不知道当我们的父母忽略或者虐待我们的时候,我们压抑了多少的悲伤。
7. You will feel many emotions as you go along - hate, rage, despair, grief, confusion, fear. When we don’t have healthy parents who mirror to us how to deal with and navigate our lives by truly feeling our emotions, we end up not learning how to do so. Therapy can be a great place to start exploring how to fully feel, and thrive, not despite, but BECAUSE of seemingly scary emotions, and what they’re trying to tell you.
7. 在你治疗的过程中,你会感受到很多的情绪——憎恨、愤怒、绝望、悲伤、困惑、恐惧,当我们没有健康的父母,教导我们如何通过自己真正的感受来处理和引导我们的生活时,我们就不知道该如何的做。治疗是一个很好的方式,可以开始探索如何充分感受和发展那些不良情绪试图告诉我们的事情,而非无视那些看似可怕的情绪。
7. 在你治疗的过程中,你会感受到很多的情绪——憎恨、愤怒、绝望、悲伤、困惑、恐惧,当我们没有健康的父母,教导我们如何通过自己真正的感受来处理和引导我们的生活时,我们就不知道该如何的做。治疗是一个很好的方式,可以开始探索如何充分感受和发展那些不良情绪试图告诉我们的事情,而非无视那些看似可怕的情绪。
8. Some of the greatest fear you may face on your healing journey may be around resistance - resistance to what happened, resistance to old ideas crumbling, and resistance to deeply buried emotions. This is normal. Be gentle with yourself.
8. 在你的治疗过程中,你可能面临的最大恐惧便是抵抗情绪——抵抗已经发生的事情,抵抗旧思想的崩溃,抵抗深深埋藏的情感,这都是正常的,温柔对待自己。
8. 在你的治疗过程中,你可能面临的最大恐惧便是抵抗情绪——抵抗已经发生的事情,抵抗旧思想的崩溃,抵抗深深埋藏的情感,这都是正常的,温柔对待自己。
9. The work of Peter Levine is also interesting and helpful during and Emotional Flashback (when one unknowingly regresses to a state of childlike helplessness/terror , but doesn’t realise it because there is no visual/memory component to the flashback, just extremely intense emotions that are out of proportion with the present.)
9. 彼得·莱文的作品在情感倒序的时候也是有趣的、有用的当一个人不知不觉的退回到孩子般的无助和恐惧的时候,但并没有意识到在闪现的过程中并没有视觉和记忆成分,只有有现在极不相称的强烈情感)
9. 彼得·莱文的作品在情感倒序的时候也是有趣的、有用的当一个人不知不觉的退回到孩子般的无助和恐惧的时候,但并没有意识到在闪现的过程中并没有视觉和记忆成分,只有有现在极不相称的强烈情感)
10. If you are spiritual (I don’t mean religous) in any way, the YouTube videos of Eckhart Tolle, Teal Swan can be deeply soothing. Even if you don’t know what they’re talking about.
10. 如果你有任何精神信仰(我指的不是宗教信仰),油管上的Eckhart Tolle, Teal Swan的视频会让你感到深深的慰藉,即使你不知道他们在说什么。
10. 如果你有任何精神信仰(我指的不是宗教信仰),油管上的Eckhart Tolle, Teal Swan的视频会让你感到深深的慰藉,即使你不知道他们在说什么。
11. Lastly, if this all feels overwhelming - that’s normal too. One day at a time. You survived a tough childhood, you are more than capable of healing your life. Get a good professional to support you
11. 最后,如果这一切让你感觉难以承受——这也是正常的,过一天算一天,你度过了艰难的童年,你完全有能力治愈自己的人生。找个专业人士来支持你
11. 最后,如果这一切让你感觉难以承受——这也是正常的,过一天算一天,你度过了艰难的童年,你完全有能力治愈自己的人生。找个专业人士来支持你
And know that those of us who have walked this path before you, believe in you. We know you can do it.
要知道,我们这些在你之前走过这条路的人,都相信你。我们知道你能做到。
要知道,我们这些在你之前走过这条路的人,都相信你。我们知道你能做到。
I wish you much luck and courage.
祝你好运,勇敢前行!
祝你好运,勇敢前行!
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